Post by The Ultimate Nullifier on Dec 31, 2013 19:18:22 GMT -6
www.failureinchicago.tripod.com/id11.html
Billy Whack's comments, as posted on a Message Board :
- Some douchebag money mark came into town and duped a bunch of people into
believing he was legit and starting a company that would attempt to compete
with WWE. There were press conferences, radio interviews...All kinds of stuff.
And this was the same guy who tried to BUY the Lunatic Wrestling Federation
the year before, but creative issues stifled the whole deal.
He spent a lot of money the second time around trying to make it VERY convincing.
And it was a desperate gasp of air that the scene needed.
Suddenly, a "hope" for Chicago workers. But there were small continuity holes in
his plans which started to make it a little odd. Then again, we may never really
find out WHAT was going on that strange fall of 01.
The guy disappeared, leaving many questions unanswered.
In the end, he ended up being a creepy guy who probably wanted to somehow use
wrestling to get his dick wet, despite his wife and kid on the way...I'm guessing.
He pulled all the "I've got power" excrement, too. Opening up briefcases with checks in
them and stuff like that...Designed to entice young hopefuls. Truly a shady guy who
deserves eternal nightmares.
** Mr.Whack had made a personal domestic improvement, the result of which was a domestic headache that even Martha Stewart could not cure. Mr.Whack had previously revitalized an independent wrestling circuit in Chicago that was on life support with the revolutionary LWF. His presence is felt in the AAW organization.
From the Final Week of August, 2001...
this is a snippet from the
Wrestling Classics Web Site....
Jonathan Langer once had the intention of making the
Lunatic Wrestling Federation into the next ECW.
Now, he is planning a launch of a new national wrestling company,
based in Chicago and starring at least two Chicago independent
wrestling figures - Grudge and PL Myers. Langer said a news conference
is set for early October, and the fed's first show will be in late
October in North Carolina.
Langer also said the fed - whose name he is not ready to release
- has a national TV deal lined up, but the group is still working
out details with local affiliates. He said fans can expect an ad campaign
featuring Carmen Electra - who would work with the company, but not as a
wrestler. Those ads could begin around the time of the scheduled news
conference, he said.
Langer said there are sites for shows in North Carolina and New York,
as well as a possible deal to run shows at Allstate Arena in Rosemont.
He also said the fed would consider running shows at college arenas.
Langer also said the fed plans to include "A" names from the national
wrestling scene, including Ken Shamrock, and at least one wrestler
"who was at Summerslam." Shawn Michaels has been mentioned as a
possibility and, "I can say there's interest," Langer said.
Langer said there will be other recognizable faces.
"They're good names," he said. Langer said the company is looking
to hire "about 75" people.
LWF champion Grudge was a special guest of Langer on Saturday at
the Pro Championship Wrestling show in Highwood, where what happened
away from the ring was as much of a show as what happened inside.
Grudge and PCW manager/promoter PL Myers have been offered position
with the new company, and Chicago indy wrestlers Synn, Jay Jensen and
Acid have been invited to closed tryouts. WSCR-AM sports radio host
Jonathan Hood also could work in the company, perhaps as a commentator.
Before the end of the PCW show - Jensen, Acid and Synn had arrived to
meet with Langer, driving to Highwood after their matches at the
Midwest Championship Wrestling show in Chicago Ridge. Synn is injured and
did not wrestle at the MCW show, but Acid did successfully defend his title
against Danny Doring in a match that opened the MCW show, which allowed Acid
to make the drive and arrive before the end of the PCW show. Jensen arrived
after beating Airborne at the MCW show. The wrestlers sat behind the
timekeeper's table and watched with Langer, who stayed almost the entire PCW show.
Langer also was in town to meet and greet former ECW stars Francine and
Bill Alfonso, who were making appearances at the PCW show.
Langer is a partner in Capitol Group Investments, based in Texas.
He has ties to the Chicago wrestling scene - he is a longtime friend of
former LWF wrestler Brawn the Lumberjack - and late last year met with
LWF leader Billy Whack about the possibility of taking the LWF
"to the next level," which Langer believed could have been a federation
on the level of ECW.
The deal didn't work out. Langer said it was because of the LWF's financial issues.
Whack said it was over creative issues. Regardless, Langer left that deal still
convinced Chicago would be an ideal home to a national federation, and he
continued to work on what will be announced in October as a new federation.
"There was a big void at the time when ECW went down," Langer said of
his interest in the LWF. "I thought the LWF had a good thing going.
I was looking to invest into the LWF. I thought the LWF would sell."
After Langer's LWF deal fell through, WCW was bought by WWF, and Langer
began to think even bigger. He doesn't expect the new fed to be on the
level of the WWF, but he figures it will make an impact.
Grudge and Myers are expected to be part of that team.
Grudge is a 19-year-old champion for the LWF with a solid physique
and a reputation for dedication to the weight room. Friends say he is
fanatical about what he eats and how often he works out.
Langer said Grudge clearly has the size and attitude to become a
national star. He said the fed will push Grudge "slowly and steadily,
" but Grudge will not be of the dark match level.
Langer said Grudge is a "sure thing."
"I saw him in LWF," Langer said. "He's a young guy.
He's big and strong, and his character sells. He has high energy.
And he's a good kid with a good background."
"I've seen guys like Jayson Reign, Vic Capri," Langer added.
"And they are tremendous wrestlers, but Grudge is ahead of them.
That's how I see it. He has everything you are looking for.
If we didn't get Grudge, he'd make it somewhere else.
He will make it. That's what I believe."
He would keep the Grudge name and his LWF look, including the heavy
chain-link rope he wears around his neck on his way to the ring.
Myers' position would put him in charge of publicity and media relations for
the Midwest. Myers also would work with advertising and help promote the
federation's events. Myers would be responsible for maintaining a relationship
with independent federations and would help scout new talent.
He also would work as a manager at wrestling shows.
"We'll put Paul in the ring," Langer said.
Langer said Jensen, Synn and Acid will have an opportunity.
Synn's potential especially has Langer's interest.
"He's got the size," Langer said. "He's built, and he can move.
He's got a good character."
Jensen could fit in as part of a tag team. And Langer likes Acid's look.
"He doesn't have the size of a lot of the other guys," Langer said
of Acid. "But he compensates for it in his ability."
Langer figures Hood can be an asset in many ways. Hood hosts
WSCR's Wrestlemaniacs show from 10 p.m.-midnight on Tuesdays.
Hood also does commentary for MCW and PCW shows.
The PCW commentary is live, broadcast on the venue's PA system,
so Langer was able to hear Hood's work.
"I don't know what direction we'll go with him. We've just met him," Langer said
of Hood. "He did a good job (at the PCW show). I think he could handle it."
The Chicago dynamics play a major role in the new fed, but Langer said
wrestlers from around the company will be participating in the closed tryouts.
"It's like preseason football," Langer said. "When the first show comes,
they will have been together, and they will grow closer."
Langer doesn't feel threatened by the new Main Event Championship Wrestling,
begun by John Collins. He said MECW may have a bit too much ECW flavor,
and he says his fed will strive for its own identity and will use a
"50-50" split of established national names and independent stars.
"I've heard people go to MECW shows and chant ECW, ECW," Langer said.
"We don't want that at our shows. We want the fans to chant our name."
Billy Whack's comments, as posted on a Message Board :
- Some douchebag money mark came into town and duped a bunch of people into
believing he was legit and starting a company that would attempt to compete
with WWE. There were press conferences, radio interviews...All kinds of stuff.
And this was the same guy who tried to BUY the Lunatic Wrestling Federation
the year before, but creative issues stifled the whole deal.
He spent a lot of money the second time around trying to make it VERY convincing.
And it was a desperate gasp of air that the scene needed.
Suddenly, a "hope" for Chicago workers. But there were small continuity holes in
his plans which started to make it a little odd. Then again, we may never really
find out WHAT was going on that strange fall of 01.
The guy disappeared, leaving many questions unanswered.
In the end, he ended up being a creepy guy who probably wanted to somehow use
wrestling to get his dick wet, despite his wife and kid on the way...I'm guessing.
He pulled all the "I've got power" excrement, too. Opening up briefcases with checks in
them and stuff like that...Designed to entice young hopefuls. Truly a shady guy who
deserves eternal nightmares.
** Mr.Whack had made a personal domestic improvement, the result of which was a domestic headache that even Martha Stewart could not cure. Mr.Whack had previously revitalized an independent wrestling circuit in Chicago that was on life support with the revolutionary LWF. His presence is felt in the AAW organization.
From the Final Week of August, 2001...
this is a snippet from the
Wrestling Classics Web Site....
Jonathan Langer once had the intention of making the
Lunatic Wrestling Federation into the next ECW.
Now, he is planning a launch of a new national wrestling company,
based in Chicago and starring at least two Chicago independent
wrestling figures - Grudge and PL Myers. Langer said a news conference
is set for early October, and the fed's first show will be in late
October in North Carolina.
Langer also said the fed - whose name he is not ready to release
- has a national TV deal lined up, but the group is still working
out details with local affiliates. He said fans can expect an ad campaign
featuring Carmen Electra - who would work with the company, but not as a
wrestler. Those ads could begin around the time of the scheduled news
conference, he said.
Langer said there are sites for shows in North Carolina and New York,
as well as a possible deal to run shows at Allstate Arena in Rosemont.
He also said the fed would consider running shows at college arenas.
Langer also said the fed plans to include "A" names from the national
wrestling scene, including Ken Shamrock, and at least one wrestler
"who was at Summerslam." Shawn Michaels has been mentioned as a
possibility and, "I can say there's interest," Langer said.
Langer said there will be other recognizable faces.
"They're good names," he said. Langer said the company is looking
to hire "about 75" people.
LWF champion Grudge was a special guest of Langer on Saturday at
the Pro Championship Wrestling show in Highwood, where what happened
away from the ring was as much of a show as what happened inside.
Grudge and PCW manager/promoter PL Myers have been offered position
with the new company, and Chicago indy wrestlers Synn, Jay Jensen and
Acid have been invited to closed tryouts. WSCR-AM sports radio host
Jonathan Hood also could work in the company, perhaps as a commentator.
Before the end of the PCW show - Jensen, Acid and Synn had arrived to
meet with Langer, driving to Highwood after their matches at the
Midwest Championship Wrestling show in Chicago Ridge. Synn is injured and
did not wrestle at the MCW show, but Acid did successfully defend his title
against Danny Doring in a match that opened the MCW show, which allowed Acid
to make the drive and arrive before the end of the PCW show. Jensen arrived
after beating Airborne at the MCW show. The wrestlers sat behind the
timekeeper's table and watched with Langer, who stayed almost the entire PCW show.
Langer also was in town to meet and greet former ECW stars Francine and
Bill Alfonso, who were making appearances at the PCW show.
Langer is a partner in Capitol Group Investments, based in Texas.
He has ties to the Chicago wrestling scene - he is a longtime friend of
former LWF wrestler Brawn the Lumberjack - and late last year met with
LWF leader Billy Whack about the possibility of taking the LWF
"to the next level," which Langer believed could have been a federation
on the level of ECW.
The deal didn't work out. Langer said it was because of the LWF's financial issues.
Whack said it was over creative issues. Regardless, Langer left that deal still
convinced Chicago would be an ideal home to a national federation, and he
continued to work on what will be announced in October as a new federation.
"There was a big void at the time when ECW went down," Langer said of
his interest in the LWF. "I thought the LWF had a good thing going.
I was looking to invest into the LWF. I thought the LWF would sell."
After Langer's LWF deal fell through, WCW was bought by WWF, and Langer
began to think even bigger. He doesn't expect the new fed to be on the
level of the WWF, but he figures it will make an impact.
Grudge and Myers are expected to be part of that team.
Grudge is a 19-year-old champion for the LWF with a solid physique
and a reputation for dedication to the weight room. Friends say he is
fanatical about what he eats and how often he works out.
Langer said Grudge clearly has the size and attitude to become a
national star. He said the fed will push Grudge "slowly and steadily,
" but Grudge will not be of the dark match level.
Langer said Grudge is a "sure thing."
"I saw him in LWF," Langer said. "He's a young guy.
He's big and strong, and his character sells. He has high energy.
And he's a good kid with a good background."
"I've seen guys like Jayson Reign, Vic Capri," Langer added.
"And they are tremendous wrestlers, but Grudge is ahead of them.
That's how I see it. He has everything you are looking for.
If we didn't get Grudge, he'd make it somewhere else.
He will make it. That's what I believe."
He would keep the Grudge name and his LWF look, including the heavy
chain-link rope he wears around his neck on his way to the ring.
Myers' position would put him in charge of publicity and media relations for
the Midwest. Myers also would work with advertising and help promote the
federation's events. Myers would be responsible for maintaining a relationship
with independent federations and would help scout new talent.
He also would work as a manager at wrestling shows.
"We'll put Paul in the ring," Langer said.
Langer said Jensen, Synn and Acid will have an opportunity.
Synn's potential especially has Langer's interest.
"He's got the size," Langer said. "He's built, and he can move.
He's got a good character."
Jensen could fit in as part of a tag team. And Langer likes Acid's look.
"He doesn't have the size of a lot of the other guys," Langer said
of Acid. "But he compensates for it in his ability."
Langer figures Hood can be an asset in many ways. Hood hosts
WSCR's Wrestlemaniacs show from 10 p.m.-midnight on Tuesdays.
Hood also does commentary for MCW and PCW shows.
The PCW commentary is live, broadcast on the venue's PA system,
so Langer was able to hear Hood's work.
"I don't know what direction we'll go with him. We've just met him," Langer said
of Hood. "He did a good job (at the PCW show). I think he could handle it."
The Chicago dynamics play a major role in the new fed, but Langer said
wrestlers from around the company will be participating in the closed tryouts.
"It's like preseason football," Langer said. "When the first show comes,
they will have been together, and they will grow closer."
Langer doesn't feel threatened by the new Main Event Championship Wrestling,
begun by John Collins. He said MECW may have a bit too much ECW flavor,
and he says his fed will strive for its own identity and will use a
"50-50" split of established national names and independent stars.
"I've heard people go to MECW shows and chant ECW, ECW," Langer said.
"We don't want that at our shows. We want the fans to chant our name."